Embracing Uncertainty & Radical Curiosity with LeoĀ Babauta
What Leo learned about learning, his fun debate with Tim Ferriss on abandoning goal setting and more...
Jonny Miller š¢ | Jun 23, 2019 | 2 |
This is a quick note to mention that episode #3 of the Curious Humans podcast is live, enjoy!

š“Leo Babauta is the prolific writer of Zen Habits who joined me from the distant island of Guam 7,400 miles away.
š§Listen to our conversation in full on Spotify, Castro or iTunes
"When youāre feeling fear, instead of turning away from it or trying to escape/avoid it ⦠try turning towards it. Actually allow yourself to feel the fear. We donāt often want to feel it, but we have a greater capacity to feel fear than we give ourselves credit for."
ā Leo Babauta
In this wide-ranging conversation we coveredā¦
š§āāļø The incredible Zen Habits origin storyāhis path from being in debt, overweight, a smoker and feeling miserable to escaping debt, gaining a following of over a million readers, publishing books on habit-change, finding joy and even running an ultra-marathon!
šŖ How to develop 'radical curiosity' and dive inwards even when you don't like what you're seeing; how to āhold the poseā when you're entire body wants to shut down and run.
šØāš How he unschooled and de-programmed his kids to facilitate their own natural state of curiosity.
š Leo's compelling case for why a fully-optimised life would actually suck and risks being the most controlled boring thing possible.
𤼠What he's learned about learning and a fun debate with Tim Ferriss on the idea of abandoning goals.
āListener Question // āHow do you feel about the balance between achievement and appreciation?ā Share your thoughts here in the comment thread.
š Read the full transcript here over on Medium.
āIf you enjoyed this conversation (or either of the previous episodes with Karina and David) taking 30 seconds to leave a rating on iTunes would be much appreciated (and huge thanks to everyone has reviewed it so far!)
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