Embracing Uncertainty & Radical Curiosity with Leo Babauta
What Leo learned about learning, his fun debate with Tim Ferriss on abandoning goal setting and more...
|Jonny Miller 🐢||Jun 23, 2019||2|
This is a quick note to mention that episode #3 of the Curious Humans podcast is live, enjoy!
🌴Leo Babauta is the prolific writer of Zen Habits who joined me from the distant island of Guam 7,400 miles away.
"When you’re feeling fear, instead of turning away from it or trying to escape/avoid it … try turning towards it. Actually allow yourself to feel the fear. We don’t often want to feel it, but we have a greater capacity to feel fear than we give ourselves credit for."
– Leo Babauta
In this wide-ranging conversation we covered…
🧘♂️ The incredible Zen Habits origin story—his path from being in debt, overweight, a smoker and feeling miserable to escaping debt, gaining a following of over a million readers, publishing books on habit-change, finding joy and even running an ultra-marathon!
💪 How to develop 'radical curiosity' and dive inwards even when you don't like what you're seeing; how to ‘hold the pose’ when you're entire body wants to shut down and run.
👨🎓 How he unschooled and de-programmed his kids to facilitate their own natural state of curiosity.
🚀 Leo's compelling case for why a fully-optimised life would actually suck and risks being the most controlled boring thing possible.
🤼 What he's learned about learning and a fun debate with Tim Ferriss on the idea of abandoning goals.
❓Listener Question // “How do you feel about the balance between achievement and appreciation?” Share your thoughts here in the comment thread.
📝 Read the full transcript here over on Medium.
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